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Apr 13, 2017 at 12:55 history edited CommunityBot
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Dec 7, 2016 at 9:54 history edited JeremyDouglass CC BY-SA 3.0
remove language on register
Dec 7, 2016 at 9:43 history edited JeremyDouglass CC BY-SA 3.0
added a note about reference frames
Dec 7, 2016 at 9:40 comment added TimR underneath is not "more literary" than under, nor more "formal", nor "fancier".
Dec 7, 2016 at 9:32 comment added JeremyDouglass There are almost no cases where "under" is not also a correct substitute for "underneath." This is not a separate definition, it is a more specific inflection. ...I think we need to stop using comments as a chat channel for now.
Dec 7, 2016 at 9:30 comment added SovereignSun I've also noticed that "underneath" as a noun can be plural "underneaths" Makes me wonder how I can use that!
Dec 7, 2016 at 9:28 comment added SovereignSun According to different shades of "under" and "underneath" it is also interesting whether "I saw the tattoo under his shirt" correct while I think only "underneath" works alright here!
Dec 7, 2016 at 9:28 comment added JeremyDouglass The dirt is on the bottom of my shoes. Perhaps the underside, but more commonly: the underside of a carriage, the underside of a train car, the underside of an alligator.
Dec 7, 2016 at 9:26 comment added SovereignSun Okay, then underneath should be a noun in that case: "The dirt is on the underneath of my shoes"? According to dics. "the part or side of something facing towards the ground; the underside."
Dec 7, 2016 at 9:24 comment added JeremyDouglass The children were playing below. Or they were playing beneath something (me, a tower, the sun). There's dirt on my shoes, on my soles. The dirt beneath them refers to the type of ground being walked on (vs concrete, grass).
Dec 7, 2016 at 9:23 comment added SovereignSun Dics tell us that "beneath" has a meaning "extending or directly underneath." so with tunnel theoretically speaking it should be beneath! No?
Dec 7, 2016 at 9:20 comment added SovereignSun Or this: A person walked on dirt and some of it has clung onto his shoes and he says "There's dirt under (underneath, beneath) my shoes." Which is correct?
Dec 7, 2016 at 9:19 comment added JeremyDouglass Well, tunnel is unambiguous, so it doesn't matter much. However, keep in mind that "beneath" is often used with "tree," so it can make things with a shadow (like a mountain) ambiguous. "He sells hotdogs beneath Trump Tower" might mean "he works in the basement" or it might mean "his hotdog stand sits in the shadow of the tower." However, "he sells hotdogs underneath Trump Tower" probably means the cafeteria is in the basement.
Dec 7, 2016 at 9:16 comment added SovereignSun How about below and beneath and underneath in this context: I looked out the window and saw children playing below (beneath, underneath).
Dec 7, 2016 at 9:15 comment added SovereignSun What about these? The tunnel spreads beneath the alps. or The tunnel spreads underneath the alps.
Dec 7, 2016 at 9:14 history edited JeremyDouglass CC BY-SA 3.0
typo though-thought
Dec 7, 2016 at 9:05 history answered JeremyDouglass CC BY-SA 3.0