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Oct 14, 2019 at 22:15 comment added ColleenV @Andrew I missed the question saying that "shot in the dark" was known and not what they're looking for so I removed it. There's something on the tip of my brain, like "shouting into the wind" but not that exactly...
Oct 14, 2019 at 22:14 history edited ColleenV CC BY-SA 4.0
added a question link, and removed the "shot in the dark"
Oct 14, 2019 at 21:46 comment added Andrew I think "A shot in the dark" is a very close parallel to the original expression. "Throw mud against the wall, etc." seems more related to trying something at random.
Oct 14, 2019 at 19:23 history answered ColleenV CC BY-SA 4.0