Timeline for The grammar of "Stop Asian hate"
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| Mar 23, 2021 at 21:12 | comment | added | Lambie | Suggested reading by a media expert: printculture.com/empathy-explanation-and-tagging | |
| Mar 23, 2021 at 3:00 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackEnglishLL/status/1374194365220982787 | ||
| Mar 21, 2021 at 17:32 | answer | added | reyad | timeline score: 0 | |
| Mar 21, 2021 at 16:53 | answer | added | Nat | timeline score: 1 | |
| Mar 21, 2021 at 12:12 | comment | added | Richard Beasley | @thumbtackthief There is at least one. I suppose this is an American phenomenon, but I had never heard of it before reading this question. | |
| Mar 20, 2021 at 20:04 | answer | added | Mike Serfas | timeline score: 1 | |
| Mar 20, 2021 at 18:26 | comment | added | Robbie Goodwin | Your Question can't be answered in its own context, because it cannot be clear except from unspoken context that “Stop Asian hate” means “Stop hating Asians” rather than “Stop Asians hating”. Without the context, read Ronald's Comment. If this is about grammar then change the wording to “Stop Crusader/Saracen hate” or - though I hate to say it - “Stop Islamic hate”. Simplified slogans depend solely on context. | |
| Mar 19, 2021 at 16:10 | comment | added | rjpond | @wyphan "Hate" as a noun goes back to 1175, although by the 19th century it was apparently considered a rare or literary usage. Nowadays it is perfectly normal (and for literary usage, one might prefer "hatred"). I think it is so common that is no longer remarkable. | |
| Mar 19, 2021 at 16:01 | comment | added | wyphan | Also, the word "hate" here is used as a noun, instead of the usual usage as a verb. | |
| Mar 19, 2021 at 15:25 | comment | added | thumbtackthief | I'm curious if you all think "gay bashing" means that there's a bunch of us angry homosexuals out there beating up people. | |
| Mar 19, 2021 at 14:14 | answer | added | R.M. | timeline score: 28 | |
| Mar 19, 2021 at 13:57 | comment | added | rexkogitans | Your nickname is "confused german", so obviously you are native German speaker. Do you understand "Stoppe Asiaten-Hass" and "Stoppe weißen Terrorismus"? Yes, the German language is somewhat more clear in this regard. | |
| Mar 19, 2021 at 13:52 | comment | added | thumbtackthief | I wonder if there's literally a single person in the world who doesn't understand the intended message behind the slogan. | |
| Mar 19, 2021 at 12:30 | answer | added | Especially Lime | timeline score: 13 | |
| Mar 19, 2021 at 10:19 | comment | added | rjpond | A slightly similar, classic example of ambiguity is "Smith's murder", where we can't tell whether Smith carried out the murder or was the victim of it (though my out-of-context intuition is that he was the victim). If the phrase was "Smith's murder of Jones" then Smith would be unambiguously the perpetrator, and if it was "Smith's murder by Jones" then Smith would be unambiguously the victim. | |
| Mar 19, 2021 at 9:57 | comment | added | rjpond | @Xwtek it doesn't to me, although I see how you might take it that way if you've heard the other version first. If I had coined it I'd have gone for the anti version. Would you refer to "anti-Jewish prejudice" as "Jewish prejudice"? "Anti-Muslim discrimination" as "Muslim discrimination"? Still, we interpret based on context. With a basic knowledge of the sociopolitical context it's obvious what "stop Asian hate" means, i.e. stopping hatred against Asians. | |
| Mar 19, 2021 at 8:07 | comment | added | Xwtek | Stop Anti-Asian Hate sounds like we have to tolerate the bigot instead. | |
| Mar 19, 2021 at 1:31 | comment | added | stangdon | Fascinating how such a seemingly simple question has sparked violent disagreement among English speakers. I fear that we may have confused the German even further! | |
| Mar 18, 2021 at 23:28 | answer | added | user118305 | timeline score: 1 | |
| Mar 18, 2021 at 23:10 | history | became hot network question | |||
| Mar 18, 2021 at 23:01 | comment | added | Ammu | Stop hate for Asians and Stop hating Asians are better. But when it comes to slogans many of them sound a little ambiguous unless you put them in context. So, context matters! | |
| Mar 18, 2021 at 17:32 | comment | added | Lambie | @AndrewTobilko Absolutely, it was originally a hashtag. | |
| Mar 18, 2021 at 17:07 | comment | added | Lambie | @stangdon Slang is not relevant to this question. Don't blame me if Americans use the slogan without adding anti. One sees: anti-Black violence and anti-Black racism. So, this should follow suit: anti-Asian violence and anti-Asian racism. | |
| Mar 18, 2021 at 17:07 | comment | added | Andrew |
Worth noting it might have originated as a social media hashtag #stopasianhate - they tend to be short and not necessarily grammatical
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| Mar 18, 2021 at 16:57 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Mar 18, 2021 at 16:53 | comment | added | stangdon | @Lambie Is a playa hater someone who hates players, or a player who hates? :^) | |
| Mar 18, 2021 at 16:28 | answer | added | Lambie | timeline score: -6 | |
| Mar 18, 2021 at 16:21 | comment | added | Lambie | English uses a lot of nouns as adjectives, but this is not one. Look at these collocations: Asian fashion, Asian cuisine, Asian customs. If you add Asian hate to the mix, you get what you bargained for. You have to follow the logic of the language. Don't blame the messenger. | |
| Mar 18, 2021 at 16:12 | comment | added | stangdon | English grammar lets us be pretty flexible with some things, particularly with uses like signs where precise grammar isn't really the point. Consider "car door" (a door belonging to a car) vs. "chicken soup" (soup made of chickens, not belonging to chickens) vs. "car wash" (a wash for cars, not belonging to them or made of them). | |
| Mar 18, 2021 at 15:52 | comment | added | Lambie | Clearly, it should be: "Stop Anti-Asian Hate". Please....but you could correctly say: Stop White Hate.... | |
| S Mar 18, 2021 at 15:21 | history | suggested | MarianD | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Formatting, some fixes.
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| Mar 18, 2021 at 15:20 | review | Suggested edits | |||
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| Mar 18, 2021 at 15:13 | answer | added | Astralbee | timeline score: 24 | |
| Mar 18, 2021 at 15:07 | comment | added | Ronald Sole | People who compile slogans and headlines are seldom concerned with grammar. | |
| Mar 18, 2021 at 15:04 | review | First posts | |||
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| Mar 18, 2021 at 15:04 | history | asked | confusedgerman | CC BY-SA 4.0 |