Timeline for What would you call, for the lack of a better way to put it, "benign nationalism"?
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| Mar 23, 2021 at 19:01 | comment | added | Peteris | The meanings are aligned when the nation and the state are aligned, however, there are many "benign nationalist" activities whose interests significantly diverge from the state - for example, if the nationalist movement argues for independence, then in that community the patriotic people are anti-nationalist (perhaps pro-"empire" in some way?) and the nationalist people are anti-patriotic i.e. against the current state/polity. | |
| Mar 23, 2021 at 15:56 | comment | added | R.M. | @Juhasz I'd say the lines are fuzzy due to the rise of the concept of "nation state" which blurs the lines between a "nation" (strictly speaking a distinct group of people) versus the sovereign polity. (Particularly true in the United States, where the concept of a "nation" of unified American people was promoted to bring together the disparate immigrants.) My impression is that "nationalism" (originally) refers to the cultural side of things, whereas "patriotism" refers to the polity. The distinction blurs with a nation state, though. | |
| Mar 23, 2021 at 15:37 | comment | added | Barmar | @Jontia Nationalists will often call themselves patriots to make their activities seem more positive. And some of them probably think of themselves as patriots, because they view others as demeaning the country. E.g. many of the insurrectionists on Jan 6 were convinced they were saving the country from a stolen election. | |
| Mar 22, 2021 at 17:38 | comment | added | Juhasz | Patriotism and nationalism have overlapping meanings, but not perfectly so. Patriotism is not typically used to describe "promot[ing] national identity, using and teaching national language at schools." | |
| Mar 22, 2021 at 12:44 | comment | added | Jontia | While the quote does the use word generally, it's getting more and more common to see Patriot and Patriotism used in a very pro-right wing form. This article discusses some of the issues around word ownership. | |
| Mar 21, 2021 at 20:43 | history | answered | Laurel♦ | CC BY-SA 4.0 |