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Yes that's a controversy at the moment -- some people refer to "Ukraine" (the country) and others refer to "the Ukraine".

I think the word "the" implies that the place that's being named is a region, and is not a single place or a single political entity -- so "Ukraine" is correct unless you deny, and "the Ukraine" may imply that it's not a country.

So "the Himalayas" -- or "the Caribbean", "the Great Lakes", "the Prairie Provinces" -- but conversely "Mount Everest" or "Jamaica" or "Lake Superior".

Or in your first example, "the city", there "city" is a common noun and not a proper name at all.

Yes that's a controversy at the moment -- some people refer to "Ukraine" (the country) and others refer to "the Ukraine".

I think the word "the" implies that the place that's being named is a region, and is not a single place or a single political entity -- so "Ukraine" is correct unless you deny that it's a country.

So "the Himalayas" -- or "the Caribbean", "the Great Lakes", "the Prairie Provinces" -- but conversely "Mount Everest" or "Jamaica" or "Lake Superior".

Or in your first example, "the city", there "city" is a common noun and not a proper name at all.

Yes that's a controversy at the moment -- some people refer to "Ukraine" (the country) and others refer to "the Ukraine".

I think the word "the" implies that the place that's being named is a region, and is not a single place or a single political entity -- so "Ukraine" is correct, and "the Ukraine" may imply that it's not a country.

So "the Himalayas" -- or "the Caribbean", "the Great Lakes", "the Prairie Provinces" -- but conversely "Mount Everest" or "Jamaica" or "Lake Superior".

Or in your first example, "the city", there "city" is a common noun and not a proper name at all.

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Yes that's a controversy at the moment -- some people refer to "Ukraine" (the country) and others refer to "the Ukraine".

I think the word "the" implies that the place that's being named is a region, and is not a single place or a single political entity -- so "Ukraine" is correct unless you deny that it's a country.

So "the Himalayas" -- or "the Caribbean", "the Great Lakes", "the Prairie Provinces" -- but conversely "Mount Everest" or "Jamaica" or "Lake Superior".

Or in your first example, "the city", there it's"city" is a common noun and a not a proper name at all.

Yes that's a controversy at the moment -- some people refer to "Ukraine" (the country) and others refer to "the Ukraine".

I think the word "the" implies that the place is a region, and is not a single political entity -- so "Ukraine" is correct unless you deny that it's a country.

So "the Himalayas" -- or "the Caribbean", "the Great Lakes", "the Prairie Provinces" -- but conversely "Jamaica" or "Lake Superior".

Or in your first example, "the city", there it's a common noun and a not proper name at all.

Yes that's a controversy at the moment -- some people refer to "Ukraine" (the country) and others refer to "the Ukraine".

I think the word "the" implies that the place that's being named is a region, and is not a single place or a single political entity -- so "Ukraine" is correct unless you deny that it's a country.

So "the Himalayas" -- or "the Caribbean", "the Great Lakes", "the Prairie Provinces" -- but conversely "Mount Everest" or "Jamaica" or "Lake Superior".

Or in your first example, "the city", there "city" is a common noun and not a proper name at all.

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ChrisW
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Yes that's a controversy at the moment -- some people refer to "Ukraine" (the country) and others refer to "the Ukraine".

I think the word "the" implies that the place is a region, and is not a single political entity -- so "Ukraine" is correct unless you deny that it's a country.

So "the Himalayas" -- or "the Caribbean", "the Great Lakes", "the Prairie Provinces" -- but conversely "Jamaica" or "Lake Superior".

Or in your first example, "the city", there it's a common noun and a not proper name at all.