Timeline for "pensioner" vs "retired person" Aren't they overlapping? Really, who is who?
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| Apr 10, 2023 at 10:31 | comment | added | Steve | @MichaelHarvey, you can certainly retire if you are financially independent, without technically having a pension. The point I was intending to make is that "retirement" is generally a status that applies to those who have worked for a living, but who now have the means not to work, and who don't intend to work again. It doesn't really apply to the lumpenproletariat or to workers who are "on the scrapheap" (those in their 50s and 60s who are too young to receive a state pension, but regarded as too old or worn out to be employed anew), and it doesn't apply to the idle rich. | |
| Apr 10, 2023 at 10:14 | comment | added | Michael Harvey | @Steve - you could be retired from regular gainful work and not be receiving any pension at all. You might have income from an annuity, or be spending down savings (or living on the interest, or a combination), or just rich. There are people who have never worked in all of their lives, and I don't think it would be accurate to call them 'retired' if they are past some milestone, e.g. pension age. | |
| Apr 9, 2023 at 17:23 | comment | added | Steve | @yunus, no, you can get a pension without being retired (such as those who "retire early" from one job with an occupational pension, but then continue working another job), and you can be a pensioner who works (i.e. you can be over state pension age, and entitled to receive a state pension, and continue to work), but you can't be retired if you have no pension at all. In that case, you're merely "unemployed". | |
| Apr 9, 2023 at 9:23 | comment | added | Michael Harvey | @yunus - no, it means the reverse, that most people (not anyone) who are considered to be retired are getting a pension. Some may not be; they may have other sources of money. | |
| Apr 9, 2023 at 8:48 | comment | added | Yunus | thanks for the answer. However, I could not quite underdestand your sentence: "There is implicitly no concept of "retirement" without being in receipt of a pension." Does this mean, anyone who is getting a pension is already a retiree? | |
| Apr 9, 2023 at 8:40 | history | answered | Steve | CC BY-SA 4.0 |