Timeline for Until now/recently... but now
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| Jun 29 at 13:22 | vote | accept | prof1589 | ||
| Jun 27 at 22:44 | comment | added | FumbleFingers | I think it's unlikely many native Anglophones would actually write example #2 with the duplicated now. And the "fronting" of until now is a bit of a "literary device" anyway, so I wouldn't expect such clumsiness to occur often in a conversational context either (people who use poetic / literary constructions in conversation are usually pretty "careful" speakers). Far more natural to my ear would be I'd never tried sushi before, but [now] I've just had..., but at this level it's just "style advice". What purpose does "now" serve? If you don't need it, dump it. | |
| Jun 27 at 20:44 | comment | added | prof1589 | @Lambie If the speaker includes that second 'now,' is it still acceptable, or does it disrupt the flow of the sentences so much that it shouldn't really be included? Thank you. | |
| Jun 27 at 20:40 | comment | added | prof1589 | @FumbleFingers In your opinion, does the 'now' in 'but now,' albeit redundant, still sound OK, or does it sound so clumsy that including it makes the sentences sound like gibberish? Thanks. | |
| Jun 27 at 20:10 | comment | added | Michael Harvey | @YvesLefol - my son aged 19 asked me if 'it was true that sushi was made from fish'. He had never heard of it prior to being taken to a sushi bar by a new girlfriend; he had thought that he hated fish since early childhood; he loved sushi. This was before most people had the internet and smartphones. | |
| Jun 27 at 18:11 | answer | added | DiogenesOfMiami | timeline score: 3 | |
| Jun 27 at 17:54 | answer | added | Andy Bonner | timeline score: 1 | |
| Jun 27 at 17:21 | comment | added | Yves Lefol | Until now I have never tried sushi but I have just had could be good too? | |
| Jun 27 at 17:08 | comment | added | FumbleFingers | Note that until recently and until now are effectively synonymous in your context. It wouldn't make sense to say Until last year, I had never tried sushi, but now I'm really enjoying my first taste of it. | |
| Jun 27 at 17:06 | comment | added | FumbleFingers | It's not a contrast between the past moment ... and the present moment. It's a contrast between now (which you could call a "moment") and the entirety of the speaker's past time (a very long "duration", definitely not a "moment"). | |
| Jun 27 at 16:54 | comment | added | Lambie | I don't get your point at all. Both those are used accurately. However, the second now is not needed, | |
| Jun 27 at 16:10 | history | asked | prof1589 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |