Timeline for "I hate red color" or "I hate red": why exactly is the first option ungrammatical
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| Nov 20, 2014 at 18:26 | history | edited | CowperKettle | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Nov 20, 2014 at 18:16 | answer | added | Dermot Canniffe | timeline score: 4 | |
| Nov 20, 2014 at 17:09 | answer | added | Andrew Licharowicz | timeline score: -1 | |
| Nov 19, 2014 at 19:00 | comment | added | cHao | Just so it's said, "I hate red color" is grammatically correct. It's just awkwardly redundant. If you say "I hate red colors", that semi-works as well, with the meaning of hating colors in that whole predominantly-red slice of the color wheel (like, say, maroon, possibly pink). | |
| Nov 19, 2014 at 10:21 | history | edited | CowperKettle | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Nov 19, 2014 at 10:15 | vote | accept | CowperKettle | ||
| Nov 18, 2014 at 8:36 | comment | added | Maulik V | In my mother tongue, I have to include the word 'color' or else, it makes less sense! | |
| Nov 18, 2014 at 4:19 | comment | added | user6951 | Cf *I hate square shape. *I hate small size. | |
| Nov 18, 2014 at 1:53 | history | edited | F.E. | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Nov 18, 2014 at 1:36 | answer | added | Araucaria - Not here any more. | timeline score: 6 | |
| Nov 17, 2014 at 23:35 | answer | added | TimR | timeline score: 2 | |
| Nov 17, 2014 at 22:53 | answer | added | Chris Cirefice | timeline score: 5 | |
| Nov 17, 2014 at 19:02 | answer | added | JohnGH | timeline score: 4 | |
| Nov 17, 2014 at 18:50 | answer | added | moonring | timeline score: 14 | |
| Nov 17, 2014 at 18:37 | answer | added | Ross Presser | timeline score: 53 | |
| Nov 17, 2014 at 17:39 | comment | added | FumbleFingers | @JackM: What CopperKettle said. Compare "I hate [loud] noise" - where singular is a "mass noun" and plural is just more than one noise. | |
| Nov 17, 2014 at 17:29 | answer | added | chapka | timeline score: 8 | |
| Nov 17, 2014 at 17:28 | comment | added | CowperKettle | @JackM maybe it swiches to being a mass noun then? | |
| Nov 17, 2014 at 17:27 | comment | added | Jack M | @FumbleFingers But if "I hate red color" only sounds wrong because color is singular, then why does "I hate color" sound just fine? | |
| Nov 17, 2014 at 16:55 | comment | added | FumbleFingers | Consider also "He has perfect pitch, and can accurately identify [the] middle C frequency". To me, that's a bit "marginal" with or without the article, compared to "...accurately identify the frequency [of] middle C". But if there's an articulatable "rule" (or even just a tendency), it's not obvious to me how you'd describe it. We need John Lawler here! | |
| Nov 17, 2014 at 16:48 | comment | added | CowperKettle | Thanks, @FumbleFingers, I haven't thought about red colours! | |
| Nov 17, 2014 at 16:48 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/#!/StackEnglishLL/status/534387546747183104 | ||
| Nov 17, 2014 at 16:46 | comment | added | FumbleFingers | In a similar vein, it's almost always "unnatural" to say "I hate old man", but "I hate the old man", "I hate an old man", and "I hate old men" are all unexceptional. And I have no real problem with "I hate red colours", which in some contexts might be a better choice than colouring[s], pigment[s], etc. | |
| Nov 17, 2014 at 15:54 | answer | added | Casey LeClair | timeline score: 29 | |
| Nov 17, 2014 at 15:50 | history | edited | CowperKettle | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Nov 17, 2014 at 15:37 | history | asked | CowperKettle | CC BY-SA 3.0 |