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May 19, 2020 at 14:34 | comment | added | Dzyann | Also, that people use something in the wrong way doesn't make it right. It just makes it harder for newcommers to speak "properly" the language due to all this "exceptions". And in my opinion you lose valuable information and understanding. | |
May 19, 2020 at 14:34 | comment | added | Dzyann | I am not a native English Speaker with a slightly more than usual interest in grammar, I was using the pronouns properly and a native speaker corrected me. I didn't argue what he said, I was just confused, and later read online and noticed many people used it wrong, or was I wrong? That is why I asked here. I never correct native speakers because that would be obnoxious. I do sometimes, correct my non native English speaking friends, when I am sure of my correction and I know they want my feedback. Otherwise I don't say anything. | |
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Jul 6, 2015 at 16:57 | comment | added | MrWonderful | In your sentence (fragment) "... the grammar rules for when stuff are in coordination are not always the same...," shouldn't it be "...the grammar rules for when stuff is in coordination are not always the same...?" I was reluctant to correct it myself due to my inferior knowledge of why some people would intentionally use incorrect English-language constructs. ;-) | |
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Jun 24, 2015 at 0:43 | comment | added | F.E. | @Araucaria (cont.) Just look at many of the answer posts in this thread, as an example of how wide-spread that bogus "rule" is. Also, look at many of the comments, too. :) | |
Jun 24, 2015 at 0:39 | comment | added | F.E. | @Araucaria I've been getting that info by reading the answer posts--some of them written by (supposedly) EFL teachers/students-intending-to-become-teachers, and by seeing them getting high up vote counts. :D I suspect that many of them aren't even aware that that "rule" is bogus: the "rule" that stuff in coordination has the same constraints as non-coordinate stuff. The problem with teachers/pedants not being aware that accusatives are often used in these contexts is that they (teachers) will "correct" this kind of usage by native English speakers, marking them as ungrammatical. | |
Jun 24, 2015 at 0:22 | comment | added | Araucaria - Not here any more. | My thoughts on what the FL teachers are likely to want is that they'd go for the path of greatest safety (forstudents), so they'd probably favour the I, because it'd be safer in more contexts. They'd definitely be safer with semi-formal writing and so forth. | |
Jun 24, 2015 at 0:05 | comment | added | Araucaria - Not here any more. | Where's you gettin your info on what language teachers want though? Where've you been doin that research? | |
Jun 23, 2015 at 23:55 | comment | added | Araucaria - Not here any more. | Just between you and I, I think you may have narrowed your readership a little, because your English is probably proficiency ++++ !! +1 from me though :) | |
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