Timeline for Do native speakers distinguish well the pronunciations of "L" and "R"?
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| Oct 15, 2015 at 7:07 | comment | added | MSalters |
@slebetman: If you cut the audio fragment to one la or one ra, then they start to get confused more. You'd still be talking about recognition rates above 90%. The repetition in la la pushes the rate up, that's an example of context.
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| Oct 15, 2015 at 3:05 | comment | added | slebetman |
@MSalters: Really? I don't think any native English speakers will misidentify the la la and ra ra ra parts of Lady Gaga's Bad Romance. Do people really hear them as the same?
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| Oct 14, 2015 at 8:52 | comment | added | gnasher729 | There would be some confusion with the speaker's first sentence, but native speakers or good English speakers would very quickly figure out what the problem is and understand the speaker reasonably well. | |
| Oct 14, 2015 at 8:23 | comment | added | Araucaria - Not here any more. | @MSalters ... may be confused by native speakers for alveolar /d/ or /n/, but it's very unlikely to be confused for /r/. | |
| Oct 14, 2015 at 8:12 | comment | added | Araucaria - Not here any more. | @MSalters Recognising sounds in isolation is a very different thing from being able to distinguish phones or identify phonemes. We distinguish many sounds not by their individual sounds but their effect on neighbouring sounds. Especially with consonants the approach and release phases are often more important than the sounds themselves. So are other effects such as the presence or absence of prefortis clipping, the presence or absence of devoicing, the presence or absence of nasalisation. The other thing you're confusing is which phonemes may be confused with which. So /l/ ... | |
| Oct 14, 2015 at 7:11 | comment | added | MSalters | Individual sound recognition is nowhere near 99%. We rely for a very large part on contextual clues (words and even sentences) to disambiguate. This can be tested by playing isolated sounds to listeners; they'll misidentify several times the 1% you assume. | |
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| Oct 12, 2015 at 13:25 | history | answered | Araucaria - Not here any more. | CC BY-SA 3.0 |