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Which one of the following two sentences is more correct/appropriate than the other? Why?

  1. That's a both interesting and challenging problem.
  2. That's both an interesting and challenging problem.
  • I think it will be 2: That's both an interesting and challenging problem. – SHANTA Nov 22 '16 at 15:22
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The best way to write this sentence is to make it simple and direct by eliminating the somewhat awkward-sounding phrase using "both" (in any version): "That's an interesting and challenging problem."

This says the exact same thing and is much more to the point. I spent many years on a newspaper copy desk and would strongly recommend grammar and composition guidelines found in Strunk & White's "The Elements of Style." One of their Elementary Principles of Composition is "Omit needless words."

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    Hey there, welcome to the ELL Stackexchange! Make sure any answer you post does actually answer the question asked (OP wants to know which example he gave is better, and one definitely is). Adding extra information such as how to convey the same meaning with fewer words is totally fine as well! But remember, we avoid opinion-based answers here, and not everything is written English -- sometimes "unneeded" words can add emphasis or otherwise change the implied meaning of a sentence. There's nothing ungrammatical or unnatural sounding about OP's second option, even with the word "both" in it. – Emmabee Sep 10 '16 at 14:07
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Of your original two sentences, neither is very smooth-sounding, but only the second one is grammatical; you can't really use "both" and a pair of adjectives to make a countable noun phrase like that.

The cleanest way to rephrase this using the rhetorical effect of "both" is to put the adjectives at the end, in a restrictive clause, and link them with "that is":

That's a problem that is both interesting and challenging.

This simplifies the structure so that the reader or hearer does not have to keep track of so many things at once, and subtly builds up emphasis as it goes so the rhetorical impact of the adjectives is increased.

If you don't really need the emphasis, you can simplify this further:

That's an interesting and challenging problem.

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1.That's a both interesting and challenging problem. 2. That's both an interesting and challenging problem. Here, both is used as a correlative conjunction , so no determinant should precede it. The first sentence is ungrammatical. The second one is ok. It is used for clarification. There are other correlative conjunctions that shouldn't be preceded by a determinant. Eg: either... or

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The role of both...and in NP (Noun Phrase) structure is of a Correlative coordinator.

Example -

... both interesting and challenging problem.

Generally it's ungrammatical to place a pre-head dependent like the, a or other determiner, adjectives etc before both when it's used as a correlative coordinator.

That's why the followings are ungrammatical -

a both interesting and challenging problem. [drop a and it would be fine]

beautiful both Kim and Mery [UNGRAMMATICAL] => both beautiful Kim and Mery [CORRECT]

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    I think both of your 'correct' phrases are ungrammatical. Hard and fast rules aside, an English speaker would construct this sentence with the adjective phrase 'both interesting and challenging' kept intact, and used as an adjective : 'That problem is both interesting and challenging' or similar. – user3235770 Sep 7 '16 at 21:42
  • I agree with the comment above, your "correct" phrases are not correct, but you're right that OP's first phrase in ungrammatical as well. OP's second, however, is right. The article "an" is needed in this construct unless you rearrange the order. – Emmabee Sep 10 '16 at 14:02
  • @Emmabee yes. I was concentrating on the usage of both, and forgot that without the article it's ungrammatical. I edited my answer. – Man_From_India Sep 10 '16 at 15:48
  • @Man_From_India Your correct examples are still not correct, I'm afraid. As was already mentioned, "both interesting and challenging" is only okay if you're saying "[The problem is] both interesting and challenging." What you have ("both interesting and challenging problem") is not correct. It'd have to be "both an interesting and challenging problem." Similarly, "both beautiful Kim and Mery" is not a grammatical sentence. "Both the beautiful Kim and Mary" is grammatical... but sounds strange to me. – Emmabee Sep 11 '16 at 14:17
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    @Emmabee I see. I again ignored articles :( But in some cases for example - he always gets drawn to both interesting and challenging problems. I agree it has to be problems, rather than problem. Thanks for your comment. – Man_From_India Sep 11 '16 at 14:23

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