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Today my english teacher insisted that the possessive adjective in the following sentence is THEIR pens! while I was trying to convince her that the correct answer is YOUR pens so which one of it is correct? the sentence goes like this:

Sara and you have pens. ________ pens are red.

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    Yes, it can only be "your". You can also tell your teacher that such words are not adjectives, but pronouns (genitive pronouns to be precise), which function as determiners in noun phrases.
    – BillJ
    Commented Jan 19, 2017 at 14:33

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Pronouns come in 3 persons: first, second, and third.
First-person pronouns refer to the speaker(s).
Second-person pronouns refer to the person or group being spoken to.
Third-person pronouns refer to a person or group that is not being spoken to.

If you are in the group being spoken about, a third-person pronoun cannot be used; the entire group inherits your "second-person-ness". If you are not in the group being spoken about, only one other person is available, so a third-person plural pronoun cannot be used. Therefore, "their" cannot be correct in this situation.

However, the sentence does allow for two possible pronouns, with 3 meanings:

1a: Sara and you have pens. Your pens are red.
The pens that you and Sara have are red. (This meaning would be conveyed by de-stressing "your" and stressing "pens" and "red"; the intent is to distinguish "pens that Sara and I have" from "pens that other people have.")

1b: Sara and you have pens. Your pens are red.
Sara has pens, you have pens; Sara's pens are not red, your pens are red. (This meaning would be conveyed by stressing "Your" and "red"; the intent is to distinguish "pens that Sara has" from "pens that I have".)

2: Sara and you have pens. Her pens are red.
Sara has pens, you have pens; Sara's pens are red, yours are not. The intent, again, is to distinguish "pens that Sara has" from "pens that I have".

If you have 1 pen and Sara has 1 pen, then option 1a above is the only valid choice; in option 1b and 2, the use of "pens" after the possessive pronoun requires more than one pen to belong to each person.

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  • Don't know why you got a downvote there. Have a +1 from me. (btw, I note in passing that in line with your her pens are red one could feasibly have their pens are red with a singular they, although it's unlikely ...) Commented Jan 19, 2017 at 23:42
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The usual order of the first sentence is "You and Sara have pens." But in any case, the second sentence must start with "your", not "their". Always.

Edited to add: I agree with the commenters that "Sara and you" is OK. But "you and Sara" is much more common, as this Google Ngram shows (with Sara replaced by John to get a reasonable hit count).

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  • I agree about your vs. their, but do you have a source for your first assertion about the word order? "Sara and you" sounds pretty normal to this US English speaker.
    – stangdon
    Commented Jan 19, 2017 at 15:42
  • It can be either you and Sara or Sara and you. It just depends on how you want to say it.
    – Lambie
    Commented Jan 19, 2017 at 17:01
  • @stangdon: I did a Google Ngram comparison. See my edit.
    – TonyK
    Commented Jan 19, 2017 at 17:18
  • @TonyK Your Ngram will give squiffy results because it excludes spoken English and will be biased towards formal English, though. Commented Jan 19, 2017 at 23:38
  • @Araucaria: You may be right, but my budget won't stretch to anything better at the moment.
    – TonyK
    Commented Jan 20, 2017 at 0:53

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