2

I still remember I had a question about whether a sign can be referred to as banner?

In an old game I played, Diablo, there was this quest "Ogden's Sign (Quest)" where a sign is referred to as a "magic banner" by one foul creature "Snotspill (Fallen One)".

So my question is: Can a sign be referred to as a banner?

Dictionaries don't give information on that banner is a synonym of sign!

1
  • 3
    I think of physical banners as pieces of cloth. Physical signs, however, could be made from any material - stone, cloth, metal, etc.
    – Lawrence
    Mar 14, 2017 at 15:19

2 Answers 2

0

In the "Ogden's Sign" quest, a creature has stolen the sign from the tavern because it has the image of a sun on it, and some other creatures have in turn stolen it from him. The creature calls it a "magic banner" instead of a magic sign, because he intends to use it as a war standard. If you give the sign to the creature he says:

"You give! Yes, good! go now, we strong! We kill all with big magic! (laughs)" From Diablo Wiki

the tavern sign The image of the tavern sign shows it as hanging from a pole, so it could be carried like a standard, or "a conspicuous object (as a banner) formerly carried at the top of a pole and used to mark a rallying point especially in battle or to serve as an emblem." Something like this:

a Warhammer 40K figure carrying a standard

A banner in this sense is not interchangeable with sign, because it is more symbolic than a simple sign. "They marched under the White Queen's sign." wouldn't make people picture the same thing as "They marched under the White Queen's banner." A banner (in this context) is a symbol of something that people might rally around. A sign (in the sense of a tavern sign) is just an informational display.

A related idiom is "under the banner of" something, which Collins dictionary explains as

If someone does something under the banner of a particular cause, idea, or belief, they do it saying that they support that cause, idea, or belief.

For example (from Collins dictionary), Russia was the first country to forge a new economic system under the banner of Marxism.

Another related idiom is "standard bearer", which Collins dictionary describes as

If you describe someone as the standard bearer of a group, you mean that they act as the leader or public representative of a group of people who have the same aims or interests.

For example,

The opposition has also been wracked by infighting since the February death of longtime standard bearer Etienne Tshisekedi.
(Source: Reuters )

2
  • So Snotspill implies a different meaning to the sign which makes it a magic banner while Ogden, the Inn keeper, sees it only as a physical object. Mar 16, 2017 at 5:30
  • @SovereignSun Yes, exactly.
    – ColleenV
    Mar 16, 2017 at 11:57
4

A banner (see def. 3) is one type of sign (see def. 5a). Sign is a more general term.

Banner has many definitions. When used as in the example given, and compared to a sign, the appropriate definition from Merriam-Webster is:

a strip of cloth on which a sign is painted

Sign has many definitions. When used as in the example given, and compared to a banner, the appropriate definition from Merriam-Webster is:

a display (as a lettered board or a configuration of neon tubing) used to identify or advertise a place of business or a product

In the examples given by the OP, a sign is a marking, with graphics and/or text, designed to communicate some information.

In the examples given by the OP, a banner is a marking, with graphics and/or text, on a flexible display like cloth, designed to communicate some information.

0

You must log in to answer this question.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged .