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talking about recent past " some thing happened few seconds ago " is one of the uses of present perfect ? For example : I'm walking with my friend " Ooh, I have dropped my pen, can you help me to find it ? " ... is that right ? If it's right so, present perfect the only tense can be used to talk about very recent actions or past simple aslo ?

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The word just can be used in the Present Perfect tense to speak about something that happened a short time ago:

  • I have just dropped my pen. Can you help me find it?

"Just" is mostly used in the Present Perfect and comes between the auxiliary verb (have) and the past participle.

Another possible way to say it is to use the set phrase "just now" which means only a moment ago; a little time ago; at this moment.

  • I (have) dropped the pen just now. Can you help me find it?
  • Thank you, but if I removed just from the sentience it'll be also true ? Or it will be another meaning ? – Abc May 3 '17 at 9:30
  • Yes, you can use Present Perfect to speak about something that happened just a moment ago. Everything that happened “a moment ago” is usually expressed with the present perfect. – SovereignSun May 3 '17 at 9:56
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You can use past tense or present perfect tense when referring to events that happened, regardless of how recent the action you're referring to was. Often you'll prepend the word just to indicate that you're talking about an event that happened in the recent past. For instance, if you wanted to talk about an event where a car drove past you a few seconds ago, you could say something like:

That car just drove past me!

You use the past tense drove as you are referring to an event in the past, and you use just to indicate the event happened very recently.

Regarding present perfect, I would defer to SovereignSun's answer; it explains the concept more concisely than I could manage.

With regards to your example, the correct ways to phrase it are:

...can you help me find it?

or

..can you help me with finding it?

  • Thank you, I'm asking about which tense to use when I'm talking about something happened few seconds ago, – Abc May 3 '17 at 8:44
  • I understand now; I have updated my answer accordingly. – Cantalouping May 3 '17 at 9:03
  • You can use the Present Perfect to speak about events that have just been complete. You can speak about events that have a result in the present. – SovereignSun May 3 '17 at 9:08
  • @cantalouping .. and you said " I have updated my answer " that's because you have just updated it and any one can see it now, Right ? – Abc May 3 '17 at 9:24
  • @SovereignSun is correct, I would defer to his answer. – Cantalouping May 3 '17 at 22:28
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English simply does not have syntax or morphological markers to indicate differing degrees of recency.

If you said, "I have eaten lunch", the listener could reason that you mean that you have eaten lunch recently, simply because every human being on Earth has eaten lunch at some point in his live, and you have no reason to make an inherently obvious statement like "I have eaten lunch at least once in the last 20 years."

If you said, "I have eaten dog meat", then the listener could reason that you have done it but not necessarily recently -- indeed probably not recently, because eating dog meat is (in most English-speaking countries) an unusual event, so if it were recent, you would have said, "I ate dog meat just now!"

A transitory and temporary state like pen-less-ness falls into the first category, but only for semantic reasons, not syntactic ones.

  • So, It depends on whether I'm talking about a past event in isolation, even if it happened few seconds ago it's better to use past simple , or whether I'm relating it to the present time so I should use present perfect, is that right ? – Abc May 4 '17 at 12:33
  • Yes, use the perfect when you are talking about an action that is compete already in the time frame of the sentence: "Queen Victoria had been dead more than a decade when WWI broke out." The time frame of the sentence is 1914, but the action referred to happened early -- in 1901, but that doesn't matter, 10 second or 10,000 years, if it's completed ("perfected"), use the perfect tense. If the event and the sentence are in the same frame -- "Queen Victoria died in 1901" -- use the simple past. – Malvolio May 4 '17 at 16:23

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