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my question is does always AFTER for example 3 something means that the 4th is the thing?

I give you two examples:

If you had 3 girls and fourth girl gave you first kiss. After how many girls did you get your first kiss? After 3 girls I got my first kiss or after 2?

Similar example:

If you found some thing you have been looking for in third drawer. After how many drawers you found it? I found it after 3 drawers or 2 drawers?

Thanks for help!

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  • I'm not sure if it is productive to ask about the same thing several times - for example, see here and here – Lamplighter Jul 22 '17 at 17:28
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    Well, in this context, it's not quite appropriate to say you "had three girls". "I have three girls" generally means you have three female children. Instead you could say, "I had three girlfriends, but I got my first kiss from the fourth." But, yes, it's after three that you got the desired result. – Andrew Jul 22 '17 at 17:33
  • Andrew so the 3rd girl was finally the one that gave me kiss? If I say after? – Peter Jul 22 '17 at 17:46

To build on @Andrew's comment. "After" always draws a line between the time before an action and the action itself. Thus,

If you met four girls and the fourth girl gave you a kiss, after how many girls did you get a kiss? Answer: three.

He's also right about using the word "had." When applied to people — especially females — it has a, um..., well... (cough) somewhat sexual meaning.

  • and how do you say if the first girl gave me kiss? It seems to me illogical to say after 3. Because AFTER I had the 4th girl I got the kiss. before i didnt have her so i could not get the kiss but after 4girls i go the kiss. because the fourth gave me – Peter Jul 22 '17 at 19:17
  • If you met four girls and the first girl gave you a kiss, after how many girls did you get a kiss? Answer: zero. The kiss occcured before all other actions, therefore it occured "after" nothing. Try it this way, "After three girls passed me by, a fourth girl gave me a kiss." An awkward way to ask the question can be answered the way you're looking for. "Four girls entered the room and the fourth girl gave me a kiss. After how many girls entered the room did I receive my kiss? Answer: four" This works because we're no longer counting girls. We're counting entrances. – JBH Jul 22 '17 at 19:39

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