which one is better ?

She and I collected some things from store.

I and She collected some requipment from there.

Him and I

me and him

Im confused

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    It's always "x and I", (almost) never "I and x". Can you turn your "him" examples into full sentences?
    – user230
    Dec 4, 2013 at 22:41
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    @snailboat I agree, and I would not go as far as to call it ungrammatical. It's just not euphonic, like saying "white and black film" instead of "black and white film". Sometimes "I" occurs first, and then the speaker adds other people to bolster his case, "I and she both feel that ..." (speaker was going to say I feel that; added another person at the last moment).
    – Kaz
    Dec 4, 2013 at 23:23
  • Also, if it's clear who "she" or "he" is, consider using "we" instead. Dec 5, 2013 at 1:15
  • @Kaz I agree with you in principle, but I think that most native speakers use she and I and me and him (and I suspect that I do this as a device I learned as a child to remember the difference between the pronouns) I agree with you because I cannot think of any rule that strictly forbids constructing it in other ways. As long as we're using subject and object pronouns appropriately, I can't see myself actually objecting to it's use; I'm simply saying that one comes out more naturally. I don't think the order is critical here, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:23

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Well, Him and I is completely wrong. Him is an object pronoun.

The same is true of her. They're both object pronouns, and thus cannot be used to represent subjects. Him and I, I and Him, Her and I, and I and her are incorrect.

As for She/He and I versus I and s/he, I think that's insignificant enough to be at the discretion of the speaker.

She and I are going shopping with them. He and I are playing football at his and her house. With whom do she and I agree?

Personally, my American ear rejects I and s/he, but it's not wrong. That's this speaker's preference.

When it comes to me and him/her, it's another story. This speaker puts me first, and I second (e.g me and him/her v. She/He and I). Again, him/her and me is not wrong, but me and s/he and Him/her and I are wrong, regardless of how you arrange them.

He's going to drive me and you/him/her/them home. She's asking about me/us and you/him/her/them. Who agrees with me/us and him/her/them?

In conversation, this is not a big deal. Only in the most formal contexts--like, say, a job interview, or in front of people whom you'd like to impress--would it matter.

In formal writing, always use subject pronouns (e.g. I, you, he/she/it, we, you (pl), they, who) to represent subjects and object pronouns (e.g. me, you, him/her/it, us, you (pl), them, whom) for objects (i.e. direct and indirect objects and the objects of prepositions).

That's the most important distinction.


You should include the reference to yourself last, as a matter of politeness:

  • Him and I
  • Him and me

To determine easily whether to use "I" or "me", remove the reference to the other party, so: "Her and me collected some things from the store" becomes "me collected some things from the store", which is clearly wrong; however, "I collected some things from the store" is correct, so by expansion, use "She and I collected some things from the store". "This ice-cream is for me" would become "These ice-creams are for her and me".

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