From here:

It’s disingenuous to suggest the Dodgers have never had a player come of nowhere quite like Taylor.

I don't understand what "come of" means here. AFAIK, "come of something" means to be the result of something.

Also shouldn't it be "have never had a player who comes of..."?

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    Suspect it's a typo for come out of nowhere; in other words, rapidly rise to prominence from obscurity. – peterG Nov 20 '17 at 10:44
  1. As peterG says, this is a typo for come out of nowhere, meaning "emerge unexpectedly".

  2. The construction HAVE + NP + VERBINF means "experience the event of NP VERBing". The passive version drops the auxiliary: HAVE + NP + VERBPaPpl

    • He had a tornado blow his roof off.
    • He had his roof blown off by a tornado.

So the sentence means "It would be disingenuous to pretend that the Dodgers have never experienced the event of a player like Taylor emerging unexpectedly."

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  • I have always understood the active "have NP V" construction to mean "to get/cause/ask/force/pay someone to do something". gymglish.com/en/english-grammar/to-have-somebody-do-something Never have I seen this construction used in the way you described. "I have a friend have a terrier" sounds off. Could you link to some examples online? – Eddie Kal Nov 21 '17 at 1:33
  • @EddieKalMY Try Collins; scroll down to "have in other verb uses and phrases" and see definition 6 there. But the experience is not necessarily an unpleasant one. – StoneyB on hiatus Nov 21 '17 at 3:59
  • I get your point. I don't have any issue with the passive construction (with a past participle after the NP). I also know the active construction can mean "to get someone to do". I was actually only wondering about the active construction (the first one you listed), which I thought only meant "to get/cause someone to do something." E.g. "I am having a guy fix my roof today"="I will pay a guy to fix my roof today", whereas "I have a friend have a terrier" doesn't mean "I will get a friend to have a terrier". – Eddie Kal Nov 21 '17 at 5:32
  • @EddieKalMY You can generally distinguish the causative and 'experiential' uses by context: obviously I did not cause the tornado to blow my roof off! – StoneyB on hiatus Nov 21 '17 at 12:15

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