Let's say you're making a statement about some haters in your life. And you say:(making a statement that is still happening now)

When you have achieved success simply because you made a stand and be yourself, some people would hate you due to envy, perhaps. Haters who instantly hate/hated you as they felt bad about themselves that they cannot reach your level now.

Do I have to say hated you?(I think this is the correct tense) but it still happening, or should I use just hate?

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    Since the situation being described "is still happening", it's more natural to use Present Tense hate. But then you'd also need to match that with feel, not felt. I think you could reasonably use hated + felt, which is consistent with the past tense of the preceding sentence, but in that case I'd also "backshift" cannot reach to could not reach. May 31, 2018 at 12:22
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    You have not written a valid sentence there (Haters who ... your level now). It lacks a main clause with finite verb. You could fix it by saying They are haters who ... and replacing that with because, or by appending it to the first sentence with some punctuation between, such as dash or a comma: ...envy perhaps—haters who ... because ...
    – TimR
    May 31, 2018 at 13:22
  • How about this: When you have achieved success simply because you had made a stand and be yourself, some people would hate you due to envy, perhaps; They are haters who instantly hated you as they felt bad about themselves because they could not reach your level now. Thx, OK now?
    – John Arvin
    May 31, 2018 at 13:31
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    had made is past perfect: there is no event to place it before, so past perfect is wrong. simple past made is fine. be yourself is a to-less infinitive or an imperative, and neither works in this context. by being yourself would work.
    – JavaLatte
    May 31, 2018 at 13:37
  • @JavaLatte, Nice, so after that all is well now?
    – John Arvin
    May 31, 2018 at 14:00

2 Answers 2


Overall, you're having problems with making your verbs agree on their tense.

"When you have achieved success … some people would" should be "some people will" for tense agreement.

"made and a stand and be" should be "made a stand and were" for tense agreement. And finally, this gets to your question, you should match the tense between hate/feel or hated/felt. Since made/were is past, I would lean towards hated/felt.

  • I have deleted 2 previous comments in this section, you are actually correct.
    – John Arvin
    Jul 4, 2018 at 11:59

I propose "hated on you" and here's why:

The term haters is informal and is usually used to describe any and all detractors of online "celebrities". It can be used to describe detractors offline but I wouldn't say it was as common.

The act of receiving online hate is characterised by rude/abusive comments on social media directed solely at an individual. It is often unfairly harsh, willfully ignorant and is often done to garner support from other haters in the form of likes or retweets.

When an individual receives mass online hate, I would argue they are not hated in a personal sense, but hated on in an anonymous, impersonal way.

I am very aware that this is poor English, but it is online slang to begin with.

If you feel that this is not relevant to you because the "haters in your life" are not online, but real people you have met, then it can still be used even though the magnitude is wrong. I'd say that rivals is a more personal term.

  • ''Online bashers'' may be the best term in your context, but not in my question. Thx anyway, I have just learned some new collocations-unfairly harsh, willfully ignorant hehe.
    – John Arvin
    Jul 4, 2018 at 11:56

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