“Take someone for something”

Question

I have always understood take someone for something to have a similar meaning to peg someone for something. But I heard in the movie Dirty Rotten Scoundrels:

Look what I did in the dining car! She gave me 100 francs. That's like, uh... 20 bucks! Do you have any idea what it feels like to take a woman for 20 bucks?

Here take a woman for 20 bucks apparently means take 20 bucks from a woman. This also appears in another scene:

Freddy: But she has the money.

Lawrence: Only by selling everything she owns.

Freddy: Come on! She's keeping the mink. If we take her for everything, she still comes out of it with a very nice mink.

Does take someone for something mean take something from someone? I can't find this usage in dictionaries.

Answer 1

It has feeling of coercion or deception to it. It sounds like they swindled the first person, and are trying to swindle the second one. From M-W

take
19 : to obtain money from especially fraudulently • took me for all I had

Answer 2

To add to Em.'s answer, the meaning can be a little broader, relating to another definition of take: to defeat someone in a fight or contest (although this context doesn't involve physical violence).

Your example probably does refer to taking money through deception of some form, as Em. described. But the expression is also used in a context like getting something from someone by beating them in something like a lawsuit or business deal.

"Take someone for X" means that you will get X from them as a result of the planned action. So in general, "take someone for everything" means to take everything they own, or their entire stake in something, via some kind of scheme or planned action.

Answer 3

It's a variation of for all (one) is worth (The Free Dictionary):

1. To the greatest degree or extent of one's ability; to the utmost; as vigorously or intensely as possible. When I saw the police approaching, I ran for all I was worth.
2. As much as one has available or to offer. If you can't get her to sign a prenup now, that guy is liable to take her for all she's worth if they get divorced.

In your example, it would be meant in the second sense—and rather than being taken for all she's worth (everything), she's only being taken for twenty dollars.

The implication is that you've taken something off of somebody else (scammed them for it, if you will), rather than simply accepting it. But in the example, it's also meant in an sarcastic way—because who cares about only twenty dollars?