Earlier today, this question was posted and then deleted by the OP...

"Oh, that they should think so!"

What does this sentence structure mean?

After I'd laboriously composed an answer, I was somewhat irritated to discover I couldn't "post" it because the question had been deleted. So I've asked it again here, where I can post my own answer.

  • I vote to close this question because the structure alone cannot mean anything; it's only a full sentence that has a meaning. Note you wrote above: “What does this sentence structure mean?” I don't see a structure in your quotation anyway.
    – user142975
    Dec 7, 2021 at 15:05
  • I think you mean you would like to closevote! Good luck with that! I assume you don't have enough rep to be able to actually see the original question. But note that What does this sentence structure mean? was copied verbatim from the original. Dec 7, 2021 at 15:11
  • This doesn't change the fact that there is a problem with your question—I hope you see it. A structure is an abstract concept, a type of bracketing using certain parts of setence (or parts of speech) rather than specific words themselves. If you are really concerned with the quality of the site, consider improving your question.
    – user142975
    Dec 7, 2021 at 15:17
  • "Arguably this question isn't a good fit for a learners site, but we were where we were" Dec 7, 2021 at 15:21
  • My point is not about whether this question is good/bad for a learner's site or about where you were, but about its understandability in general. Frankly, I simply don't think it's clear, and, given your other answer so far, I have no doubt you see it, too.
    – user142975
    Dec 7, 2021 at 15:29

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Arguably this question isn't a good fit for a learners site, but we are where we are. First of all, note...

...showing that this dated/poetic/archaic construction has little relevance to contemporary English.

The exclamation O (more commonly transcribed as Oh today) can have a wide range of meanings. That MW list is only partial - it doesn't even include the very common use as a hesitation device, for example - but the first definition is what applies to OP's example, where it's being used to express surprise.

Effectively therefore, we can equate Oh here to It is surprising - followed by a "that" clause specifying exactly what is surprising. We can thus rephrase the utterance as...

That they should think so is surprising.
...more simply, noting this earlier ELL question explaining that should is optional in such contexts...
That they think so is surprising.
...or even more simply...
They think so, which is surprising.

In the example in an earlier question on Proper usage of 'to do so', the "referent" of so (what it actually refers to) is explicitly specified in the utterance. In OP's example here, it's not - so we can't even say for certain whether it means that they think in a certain way, or that they believe a certain thing to be true. Probably the latter, but in practice the precise "thing believed" would be clear in context.

The only aspect of this construction relevant to current English concerns potential distinctions between...

Q: "Would you say this is a good answer?"
A1: "I think so."
A2: "I should think so."

As mentioned above, "should" is effectively optional here. As so often happens in such situations, native speakers naturally look for some reason why the speaker chose to add an apparently unnecessary word (particularly in this case, since #A is an extremely common thing to say).

It would be misleading to suggest there's any specific meaning to should in my final example there. The most credible "literal" sense would be "I ought to think that [but for some reason I don't]", but in practice that's an unlikely thing to want to say. Usually it's either a way of adding hesitancy (I might think that if I were to think about it at all), or emphasis (often with think stressed, and an exclamation mark after so, giving the sense of "I very definitely do think that!").

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    Sometimes that "surprise" is mingled with appreciation or admiration, as in: Oh, what a thorough answer!
    – J.R.
    Feb 24, 2014 at 15:21
  • @J.R.: Oh, absolutely! But I did point out that the MW definition I linked to was only partial. Oh - and I still think that today in speech very likely the most common usage is simply as a "hesitation device". "Oh, I'm not sure if I could actually back that up" - but I am sure it's an exclamation of surprise in OP's example (regarding which I guess I can afford to be sure now, since it's actually become my example! :) Feb 24, 2014 at 15:34
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    +1 But Oh! might also indicate How it distresses me that they should think so! or How deeply I wish that they should think so! Feb 24, 2014 at 17:19
  • @StoneyB: Indeed. Your first possibility being in line with the first definition of Oh in my MW link (used to express surprise, happiness, disappointment, or sadness). The second being perhaps also in line with my point about the "literal" sense of should - i.e. "They ought to think that [which would please me, but for some reason they don't, which saddens me]" Feb 24, 2014 at 17:29
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    @FumbleFingers Hmm... Looks like I should have called it an optative subjunctive :) Feb 24, 2014 at 23:06

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