Could you tell me if the word for adds anything to the meaning in the following context. It's from the sixth episode of the tenth season of Friends.

Chandler: Look, I'm sorry I didn't give them your tape. And I promise, next time to submit you whether I think you are right for the part or not.

Joey: That's not the point Chandler. The point is that you lied.

Chandler: I know. You're right. What's it gonna take for you to forgive me.

How the meaning would change if Chandler dropped the for?

  • It takes x for [someone] to do something
    – Lambie
    Jul 11, 2020 at 19:01

1 Answer 1


This is the type of situation where you can't omit 'for' as a preposition when it is followed by an indirect object and to-infinitive. If you do so, your sentence will be meaningless.

Moreover, the structure for + noun/pronoun [here, it is the subject of the to-infinitive clause] + to-infinitive is very common in English, and in speech. It is therefore needed ,as I mentioned before, in order to complete the intended meaning of the aforementioned sentence.

The sentence makes sense, and is correct as it is.

I hope I provided a good explanation.

  • This is an idiom: what's it going to take [for some person to do y]
    – Lambie
    Jul 11, 2020 at 18:56
  • Probably. But It shouldn't be modified anyhow.
    – Alex TheBN
    Jul 11, 2020 at 18:58

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