This might be a question of individual style, but it still bothers me:

The words in the title are part of the lyrics of swiss singer Jael Malli in her song "Driving with You" on her album here (20 seconds into the song): https://www.jaelmusic.ch/music

I would think, as an American speaker, one would say

ten p.m.

from a British speaker, I would expect to hear

ten o'clock in the evening

Is the combination

it's ten o'clock p.m.

actually used anywhere?

Note: I am specifically asking about the o'clock part in combination with AM/PM, not about leaving out the o'clock part as in Answering about the time

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    it's redundant, but don't expect any song to be perfectly grammatical (particularly, when the author isn't an English native) Mar 14, 2021 at 22:39
  • Does this answer your question? Answering about the time
    – ColleenV
    Mar 14, 2021 at 22:53

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While most grammar references will rightfully consider using both redundant, the o'clock a.m./p.m. form is still used sometimes - particularly in spoken English, where you might start saying "ten o'clock" and then partway through realize it might not be clear enough for the listener, but also in cases like the title of this exhibit in the Library of Congress or this picnic announcement.

Or, like in your example, in poetry and songs, where proper English is sometimes bent a bit to match the rhythm.

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