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1.Who did you mention to____ that it was too late. –wrong

2.Who did you mention it to _______that it was too late.

3.Who did you mention to ____about honeymoon?
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Analyzing the above sentences would I be correct in concluding that - in sentences with Clause Marker «That», stranding, which forms Gap in Indirect Object, cannot be used unless I have an overt Direct Object. In sentences with That I should choose Pied-piping instead.

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  • Could you make your question a little bit more specific? Like elaborate a little on what exactly is going on here, and where exactly are you facing a problem.
    – Dhanishtha Ghosh
    Jun 3, 2021 at 13:08
  • i copy my previous addition, if i may: Sentences 1 and 2. №1 doesn't have a Direct Object, means it is not permissible to use stranding. But once the same is completed with the Direct Object i can form stranding. it applies to sentences with That Clause only. At least examples i meet regularly show such a tendency. Should i use sentece № 3, i can use strandsing without restriction.
    – IRINA
    Jun 3, 2021 at 13:21

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The relative pronoun in these sentences function as an object of a preposition, so it doesn't matter if you use "Who did.." or "to whom did...". However, I'm not totally sure I understand your question correctly.

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  • i was refering to the difference between Sentences 1 and 2. №1 doesn't have a Direct Object, means it is not permissible to use stranding. But once the same is completed with the Direct Object i can form stranding. it applies to sentences with That Clause only. At least examples i meet regularly show such a tendency. Should i use sentece № 3, i can use strandsing without restriction. I feel i might have been misled by my observation. Thank You for sharing your view!
    – IRINA
    Jun 3, 2021 at 13:11
  • But what you're referring as a "That clause" is actually not any kind of that clause. By the way in English doesn't exist "That clause". We have "Nominal that clause" and other clauses that are using "that" is appositive clause, defining and non-defining relative clause and adverbial clause of reason. However, the problem in your sentences is that the clause starting with that is no subordinate clause, but main clause. I also don't understand what you mean by the term "stranding". It's not a linguistic term, so that's why I'm lost. But maybe you mean something completely different by that.
    – Vojta_HU
    Jun 3, 2021 at 13:26
  • in English doesn't exist "That clause". - correct. In the first sentence i called in a correct way Clause Marker and then jumped onto an inappropriate term.
    – IRINA
    Jun 3, 2021 at 13:38
  • Stranding - preposition stranding as opposed to Pied piping or Preposition Fronting.Frankly, i do not know any other term for the phenomenon.Thank you!
    – IRINA
    Jun 3, 2021 at 13:39

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