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I was wondering about variations of the form

"[subject] has/is [property] [units]."

So far, I concluded that these are agreeable as well as:

"[subject] with [property] [units] is..."

"[subject] has a [property] of [units]."

"A [property]-[units] [subject] is..."


Below are some examples.

Initially, I was wondering about "field index." Since it's not common, I added "weight," which is supposed to be simple as a technical term. Unfortunately, since there's the verb "weigh", the weight examples sound awkward, where I suggested to use "mass" instead.

Most of example A is incorrect, but I'm leaving it as is not to put the discussion afterwards out of context.

In example B, I used the more common "vertex valence/degree," for which I could find expressions on google.

In example C, I took the simplest form and added different properties to give more examples for the pattern and for future searches.


Example A:

  1. It has weight of 2kg.
  2. It has 2kg weight. (Treating 2kg as an adjective.)
  3. It has field index of 2. (Same principle.)
  4. It has 2 field index.
  5. It has weight 2kg.
  6. It has field index 2.

Example B:

  1. The vertex (in a graph) has valence 2.
  2. The vertex has a valence 2.
  3. The vertex is 2-valence.
  4. A vertex with valence 2.
  5. A vertex of degree 2.
  6. The vertex has degree 2.
  7. A degree 2 vertex.
  8. A 2-degree vertex.

Example C:

  1. It is an update of rank 2.
  2. It is a rank-2 update.
  3. The vertex has defect (or Gaussian curvature) 90 degrees.
  4. A surface of genus 2.
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  • We just do not normally say: x has a weight of y. In English, we use the verb: X weighs Y.
    – Lambie
    Commented Feb 5, 2022 at 21:19
  • I updated the parenthetical comment for A.1.
    – Zohar Levi
    Commented Feb 5, 2022 at 21:26
  • You shouldn't say as in. You should just use the verb in those examples with weight.
    – Lambie
    Commented Feb 5, 2022 at 21:28
  • Okay, so as people said, these examples are wrong or sound weird.
    – Zohar Levi
    Commented Feb 5, 2022 at 21:37
  • This is a request for proofreading, and asks multiple questions in one, so it is way off-topic. I'm closing this to new answers.
    – gotube
    Commented Feb 6, 2022 at 8:11

3 Answers 3

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It has weight of 2kg. Would be better with "a" before "weight", but acceptable.
It has 2kg weight. Would be better with "of" after "2kg", but still would be weird with that.
It has field index of 2. Same as A1, but less need for "a".
It has 2 field index. Sort of sounds like you're saying its field index has two different values. Would be improved, but still not great, but adding more words, such as "It has 2 as field index".

The vertex (in a graph) has valence 2. A bit awkward, but could be idiomatic for some communities (I'm used to the term "degree" rather than "valence").
The vertex has a valence 2. No, needs "of" after "valence".
The vertex is 2-valence. Works better as an adjective ("It is a 2-valence vertex") than a subject complement, but can be acceptable.
A vertex with valence 2. A bit awkward; at least with "degree", "has" or "of" is more common.
A vertex of degree 2. Normal graph theory phrasing.
The vertex has degree 2. Normal graph theory phrasing.
A degree 2 vertex. Normal graph theory phrasing, but hyphen between "degree" and "2" would improve readability.
2-degree vertex. I think it's pretty standard to put the number after the word "degree".

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    Your comments on the mistaken phrases would be easier to read if you just wrote them out.
    – Lambie
    Commented Feb 5, 2022 at 21:20
  • I don't know how to talk about vertices and valences, but the other suggestions are not acceptable English. Also, what @Lambie said: please write out the correct version so readers don't have to create the sentences in our heads.
    – gotube
    Commented Feb 7, 2022 at 22:48
  • @gotube, can you please be more specific: which suggestions aren't acceptable?
    – Zohar Levi
    Commented Feb 8, 2022 at 20:11
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None of your six examples are correct English.

Your examples 2, 4, 5, and 6 are unsalvageable. English does not work that way.

Your examples 1 and 3 would be grammatically correct if you inserted the indefinite article: "It has a weight of 2kg," "it has a field index of 2." (For weight you could also use the definite article and make it a comparison: "It has the weight of two one-kilo barbells.")

But those still sound unnatural and unidiomatic, at least for weight. Instead:

  • It weighs 2kg.
  • Its field index is 2.

"Field index" is not a common thing to talk about and so "It has a field index of 2" could work. It definitely sounds more technical and not quite as natural as describing "field index" as a property which the object possesses, but it could work. "It has a weight of 2kg" is not something a native speaker would ever say.

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  • I also wouldn't use weight like that, but I gave it as a comparable example. About your indefinite article suggestion. Aren't both weight and index in these cases uncountable? I added another example with valence.
    – Zohar Levi
    Commented Feb 4, 2022 at 9:34
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    Weight in this sense is uncountable, but when you are specifying it with of it requires an article: a weight of 2kg.
    – Colin Fine
    Commented Feb 4, 2022 at 10:58
  • "of" is cumbersome; what will it be without "of"?
    – Zohar Levi
    Commented Feb 4, 2022 at 17:17
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    Without "of" it will be just as ungrammatical as it was before.
    – randomhead
    Commented Feb 4, 2022 at 17:28
  • @ZoharLevi - Without of it would be It weighs 2kg, as indicated above.
    – EllieK
    Commented Feb 4, 2022 at 19:23
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From Pondy.

None of Example A are acceptable to me. They should be

  1. It has a weight of 2kg.
  2. Its weight is 2kg
  3. It has a field index of 2.
  4. Its field index is 2
  5. It weighs 2kg.

Example B:

  1. The vertex (in a graph) has valence 2. OK
  2. The vertex has a valence 2. NO: should be The vertex has a valence of 2.
  3. The vertex is 2-valence. WEIRD
  4. A vertex with valence 2. OK
  5. A vertex of degree 2. OK
  6. The vertex has degree 2. OK
  7. A degree 2 vertex. WEIRD
  8. A 2-degree vertex. NO

Example C:

  1. It is an update of rank 2. OK
  2. It is a rank-2 update. NO. Shouldn't have the hyphen

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