Between the two sentences:

  • I hope you and her are fine.
  • I hope you and she are fine.

Which one is correct and why?

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    The first is certainly incorrect: her is an object or a possessive pronoun, never a subject. "I hope you are both fine." Sep 13, 2022 at 9:27
  • @WeatherVane this should be the answer
    – dclxvispqr
    Sep 13, 2022 at 9:35
  • ...except occasional colloquial usage: "Her indoors told me to keep quiet about it." Sep 13, 2022 at 9:35
  • @WeatherVane. Not very clear to me. What constitute(s) the subject in sentence you referred to?
    – Elvis
    Sep 13, 2022 at 9:36
  • @Elvis "You and she" are the subjects of the phrase. Sep 13, 2022 at 9:37

1 Answer 1


This isn't very scientific, but the rule of thumb is the absence or presence of a preposition. This has to do with cases, which used to be a feature of the English language but is no longer so: certain vestigial qualities remain, though.

Thus, if a pronoun is used, it's "her" (and "me" and "him" and "them"):

to her, of her, about her, with her, over her, around her. to me, of me, about me, with me, over me, around me. to him, of him, with him, etc. to them, of them, with them, etc.

If not, use "she"(and "I" and "they").

Like this:

"I hope you and she are both fine."


"I hope everything is fine with you and her."

"It sounded wonderful to me and her."

The same method applies to "who" and "whom." If there's a preposition involved ("of," "to," "about," "with," etc.) - it's "whom." If not, it's "who."

  • So what becomes the subject for the " I hope you and she are (both) fine "?
    – Elvis
    Sep 13, 2022 at 10:49
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    @Elvis it is clearer if you say it independently. In "you are fine, she is fine" it is clear what the subjects are, and it is more obvious that "you are fine, her is fine" is ungrammatical. Sep 13, 2022 at 11:02
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    I was always taught to do this on the basis of removing the other word. So "I hope she is fine" gives you "I hope you and she are fine." And "I hope all is well with her" gives you "I hope all is well with you and her." I suppose this is equivalent to what @WeatherVane has already commented.
    – BillOnne
    Sep 13, 2022 at 14:38
  • @Xanne: Thank you, I stand corrected. A preposition, of course. The appropriate edit is in place.
    – Ricky
    Sep 14, 2022 at 22:18

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