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In this following context, what does the phrase ''speak of'' mean?

I found thi definitions of ''speak of'' as: ''serve as evidence for something. (Oxford Languages)

''speak of something) to seem to prove that something exists or is true'' (Macmillan Dictionary)

Should I use this meaning in this context?

the context:

But where there is no real unchanging entity, no soul, there one cannot speak of the transmigration of such a thing.

Source: Page. 8 ''Fundamentals of Buddhism'' by Nyanatiloka Mahåthera

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    I think it's the basic meaning talk about, refer to. Commented Oct 4, 2022 at 12:53
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    It's not rocket science! It just means if we accept that souls don't exist, then it's meaningless to talk about the transmigration of souls. Commented Oct 4, 2022 at 13:25

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I think the quotation can be paraphrased as

If there is no soul then one cannot prove the existence of transmigration.

So the second definition, Macmillan, seems to fit the quote better.

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