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From Graham King. (2000). Good Punctuation. p.113.

If this chapter on hyphens has seemed a touch heavy-handed you might consider the words of writer and grammatical realist Keith Waterhouse: 'If you write second-hand and car salesman, should you write second-hand-car salesman, which is fussy, or second-hand car salesman, which suggests that the salesman is second-hand? Fruitless hours can be spent pondering such questions. It is usually-better to leave all the hyphens out than allow them to pile up.

(Emphasis added)

Should it be "a heavy-handed touch"? If so, why does "heavy-handed" follow "touch"? If not, what is the usage?

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    No: they have different meanings, a heavy-handed touch" being far stronger than "a touch heavy-handed". "A touch heavy-handed" is not a noun phrase but an adjective phrase with the complex determinative functioning here as modifier of the compound adjective "heavy-handed". Compare also "a little heavy-handed", which has the same meaning and the same stucture.
    – BillJ
    Commented Sep 23, 2023 at 16:49
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    See Merriam Webster no/ 7
    – Lambie
    Commented Sep 23, 2023 at 17:37
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    As everyone has explained, the modifier "touch" simply means "slightly". That's all there is to it. For example, you might say "give us a touch more volume please" or "drive a touch faster please" or "coffee is better with a touch of sugar".
    – Fattie
    Commented Sep 24, 2023 at 13:28
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    @Fattie It's not "touch" but "a touch", a complex determinative.
    – BillJ
    Commented Sep 24, 2023 at 13:40
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    @Winged Tiger. I'm afraid you've approved the wrong answer. The expression is not "touch" but "a touch", which is a complex determinative in the same way that "a little" is.
    – BillJ
    Commented Sep 25, 2023 at 7:22

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[1] If this chapter on hyphens has seemed a touch heavy-handed ...

[2] If this chapter on hyphens has seemed a heavy-handed touch ...

[1] and [2] have quite different meanings, a heavy-handed touch being far stronger than a touch heavy-handed, as well as having a somewhat different meaning. In [1] a touch heavy-handed relates 'to this chapter on hyphens' where the meaning of a touch is similar to a little, while, by contrast, in [2] the heavy-handedness relates to touch, which here is a noun.

I'd say that [1] conveys the intended meaning, where a touch heavy-handed is not a noun phrase but an adjective phrase with the complex determinative "a touch" functioning here as modifier of the compound adjective "heavy-handed".

The head of the adjective phrase is heavy-handed which requires a modifier (here, a touch) to be in attributive (pre-head) position.

Compare also if this chapter on hyphens has seemed a little heavy-handed ..., where the complex determinative a little has more or less the same meaning here as a touch.

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  • Where is Noun after indefinite article "a"?
    – Sam
    Commented Sep 23, 2023 at 19:01
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    @Sam "A touch" is a complex determinative in the same way that "a little" is.
    – BillJ
    Commented Sep 24, 2023 at 7:38
  • The second one would more naturally be ".. seemed to have a .."
    – Fattie
    Commented Sep 24, 2023 at 13:30
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    Yes, I think 'a touch' is the same as 'a little' as a whole.
    – Mr. Wang
    Commented Sep 25, 2023 at 7:31
  • The paenultimate paragraph here seems wrong, or at least ambiguous. Heavy-handed isn’t in attributive position – it’s predicative. And even if it were, it wouldn’t require a modifier to be so (in fact complex modifiers like a touch would be disallowed: ‘*an a touch heavy-handed chapter’ is ungrammatical). Is the intended meaning rather that any modifiers to the head in an adjective phrase are required to be in attributive position? (And does that mean you don’t consider postpositional PPs like ‘heavy-handed in the extreme’ to modify the head?) Commented Sep 25, 2023 at 10:18
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I don't think this is really a question about hyphenation.

In the phrase

a touch heavy-handed

the "touch" is an adverb meaning "just a little" modifying the adjective "heavy-handed".

The phrase

a heavy-handed touch

suggests a very heavy hand.

7 : something slight of its kind: a touch of fever
a small quantity or indication : touch of spring in the air

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/touch

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  • Where is Noun after indefinite article "a"?
    – Sam
    Commented Sep 23, 2023 at 19:01
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    The noun is "heavy-handed" (the object of the verb "seemed:, The adjective "touch" precedes the noun. That's like the sentence "I seem to be a little sleepy today." Commented Sep 23, 2023 at 19:16
  • a touch, a little, a bit
    – Lambie
    Commented Sep 23, 2023 at 19:51
  • @user253751 I thought about that. In this case I think "heavy-handed" works as the noun object of the sentence. I might be wrong about that since I haven't studies formal grammar since about 8th grade many years ago. Commented Sep 24, 2023 at 13:08
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    "A touch" is best analysed as a complex determinative functioning here as modifier. of the compound adjective "heavy-handed".
    – BillJ
    Commented Sep 24, 2023 at 13:36
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This can definitely be confusing! Let's break it down - the word touch is being used as an adverb here to describe the phrase "heavy-handed." You might say "isn't touch usually a verb that means to physically come into contact with something?" You're right! but in this case it means something different.

Touch as an Adjective or Adverb

In this case, touch is being used as a measurement to mean "a little" or "a small amount." You'll see this word used in the same way in phrases like:

  • "Add a touch of wine to the sauce."
  • "My house is pretty clean but just needs a touch of tidying."

Some synonyms are

  • tad
  • smidge
  • little bit

Heavy-Handed

The phrase heavy-handed usually means "overdone," "overly controlled," or "not elegant." This shows up in a wide range of contexts, from cooking, to writing, to politics. Here are some other examples:

  • "That speech was heavy-handed, the president gave too many metaphors and it felt like she was lecturing the audience."
  • "Don't be too heavy-handed with the cream in the soup. We only want a little bit."
  • "He is such a heavy-handed driver - I feel like I am constantly being thrown around in his car."

Putting it Together

In this case, the author saying "a touch heavy-handed" means "a little bit overdone" or "a little bit too much." They might mean that the thing being talked about was almost right and only ended up in the overdone category by accident, or they might be using sarcasm and mean that it was actually very overdone.

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  • Where is Noun after indefinite article "a"?
    – Sam
    Commented Sep 23, 2023 at 19:02
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    @Sam This is one example of English breaking its own general rules. Usually only nouns have articles. In this case "a touch" is a phrase that is being used as an adverb. It would not sound correct to a native speaker if you just said "this is touch heavy-handed." This phrase is always used with the indefinite article "a." Commented Sep 24, 2023 at 0:09
  • I think it's better to classify "a touch" as a complex determinative functioning as a modifier of the compound adjective "heavy-handed".
    – BillJ
    Commented Sep 24, 2023 at 7:52

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