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from an answer on ell.stackexchange.com:

If "much" qualifies a simple adverb or a simple adjective, you can use it in a negative sentence:
(1) He is not much good. — OK

The word "simple" makes the rule very bad and unclear because it's not understood what "simple" means.
Is the past participle adjective "disappointed" considered simple or not?

for example:
(2) She didn't look much disappointed.
Is (2) correct?

P.S.: I know I can say (1) and (2) with "very":
(1a) He is not very good. — correct
(2a) She didn't look very disappointed. — correct


Also I wonder whether adding "very" to "much" would change the correctness of the sentences or not:
(1b) He is not very much good.
(2b) She didn't look very much disappointed.
Are (1b) and (2b) correct?


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  • In the answer you have quoted from, simple is contrasted with comparative. The point they were making was, you can say much faster but not much fast. So your sentence (2) is wrong, but She didn't look much more disappointed [than she was yesterday] would be fine. Commented Aug 28 at 4:44
  • @PeterKirkpatrick Your use of "so" in the sentence "So your sentence (2) is wrong" doesn't make sense. "So" makes this sentence illogical in terms of what you wrote before.
    – Loviii
    Commented Aug 28 at 5:41
  • It makes sense to me. Your sentence #2 is: She didn't look much disappointed. The link explains that in this context much is attached to the comparative adjective (more disappointed), not the simple adjective (disappointed). So (=*therefore*) your sentence is wrong. But my variation gives a possible correct usage. Commented Aug 28 at 6:39
  • Note that these are comments, not an answer. I was trying to help on the particular issue of simple and its meaning. The word much has a range of meanings and uses. Commented Aug 28 at 6:48
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    I would suggest that good in not much good is a noun, not an adjective - compare not much use. Commented Aug 28 at 7:05

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I need to hammer this nail. Why did you hand me a screwdriver? A screwdriver's not much good.

That is, a screwdriver is ill-suited for hammering.

When I told him there was no Santa Claus, he didn't look much disappointed. Perhaps one of his fellow students at the university had already told him?

Common in the 19th century and earlier, "much disappointed" is grammatical but has now been ousted by very, at least in American English. Until around the middle of the 20th century, authors on "correct" use of the language were insisting that much be used with participial adjectives.

The house was much dilapidated. obsolescent

much can be synonymous with "a lot" or "often" or "a good deal":

Do you run much?

Do you ski much?

You're gasping for breath after a few jumping jacks. Exercise much?

But the answer cannot use much in the affirmative:

Yes, I run much. ungrammatical

No, I don't exercise much. grammatical

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  • If "He is not much good" is correct, then "He is not very much good" is correct too, right?
    – Loviii
    Commented Aug 28 at 22:45
  • @Lovii I've never heard anyone ever say He is not very much good. I wouldn't consider it grammatical.
    – TimR
    Commented Aug 28 at 22:51
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"not much good" is a special case. Generally "not much" is followed by a comparative adjective, e.g. "not much stupider/better/taller", a mass noun e.g. "not much sugar", or a countable noun with "of", e.g. "not much of a man".

There are other similar constructions like "not much use", "not much help", "not much point", where "use", "help", and "point" are nouns. So it might be assumed that "good" is a noun here, which it can be (Merriam-Webster), not an adjective.

So the rule would be

  1. "Not much good" is fine.

  2. "Not much" + comparative is fine.

  3. "Not much" + mass noun is fine.

  4. "Not much"+simple (non-comparative) adjective is not idiomatic.

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  • If "He is not much good" is fine, then "He is not very much good" is fine too, right?
    – Loviii
    Commented Aug 28 at 22:43

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