Zur Situation Von Konstruktionen b/w Les Mots Ètranges is Les Trucs first 7″ on fettkakao. well – at least a very own 45. they have had a split out in 2010 w/ Sex Jams and contributed a song to the last Fettkakao compilation that was released early this year.

I think it should be either past perfect or past simple for both verbs:

They had had . . . and had contributed (past perfect)


they had . . . and contributed (past simple).

I don't understand why have and contributed are present perfect as both events relate to the past. Don't you think the writer should have added so far or up to now to justify present perfect?

And if it is the reason why is release not present perfect, as the year is not finished?

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    I don't know what a 'split out' is, but if I just substitute the innocuous phrase 'dinner party' then that would make me think it should just be 'had', not 'have had' nor 'had had'. Dec 6 '14 at 18:48
  • It would be helpful if you tell us what a "split out" is.
    – user3169
    Dec 6 '14 at 19:04
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    The specific meaning of split out is irrelevant. Both present perfect and past perfect are perfectly valid forms here - which is most appropriate depends on additional context that we don't have. Essentially, present perfect would be more suitable if the primary "narrative time" is now, but if the surrounding context is inherently set in the past, past perfect would probably be more justifiable. Having said that, it's almost never a "mistake" to use present perfect even in contexts where past perfect is justifiable. Dec 6 '14 at 19:08
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    & what's a 'split album'? Dec 6 '14 at 19:21
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    This question appears to be off-topic because it addresses non-standard uses by a non-native user of English. Dec 7 '14 at 13:50

Is there more context besides just one sentence?

If it is just this one sentence, then AmE would most likely use the past simple for both verbs (had and contributed.)

The use of past perfect for both verbs is unnecessary and not preferred if this one sentence is the only context.

The present perfect here may be a BrE usage.

If it were since 2010 then present perfect (have had) and past simple (contributed) would be fine in AmE or BrE.

  • So why all the verbs are not present perfect,(have, contributed and released) I dont understand why the closest event to the present is past simple .
    – user5577
    Dec 6 '14 at 21:46
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    Is this a sentence you wrote or something you found? If it is something you found, please provide a link and paste more context. If it is a sentence you wrote, I am not sure what you are asking. You can only ask one question at a time.
    – user6951
    Dec 7 '14 at 2:07
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    @user5577 They should all be past simple: in English the present perfect is deprecated with time references which exclude the present. The perfects in your passage are a German usage. Dec 7 '14 at 15:21

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