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I'm pretty clear about using subject or object version of pronouns.

While writing a line, I naturally wrote it in this way -

Your and my grandparents had grown listening to this piece of music.

But then, as I read, it looked incorrect. Then I tried this:

Yours and mine grandparents had grown . . . "

It looked even worse!

These are possessive cases, but still I'm confused what to use and why?

What confuses me is my own rule of breaking the sentence in two and decide what fits. If I break, it appears that . . . 

Your grandparents + my grandparents = *Your and my grandparents had . . . *

What if I use possessive pronoun 'yours' this way?

"The grandparents of yours and mine had grown up . . . "

'yours' is used when the speaker refers to 'your things'. But then this particular sentence is baffling me! Because I'm the speaker and the sentence includes my possession as well!


Okay, we have 'our' as 'you' and 'I', but then the question is about using proper pronouns.

What about this:

Your and her grandparents...

Or...

Yours and her grandparents...

O...

Yours and hers grandparents...

  • can it be Your grandparents and mine had grown listening to this piece of music. ??? – Usernew Nov 6 '15 at 7:26
  • Why not make this simple: "Our grandparents had grown listening to this piece of music." – XPMai Nov 6 '15 at 7:29
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    @MaulikV, I don't understand what you're saying. "You and I" are pronouns while "your and my" are possessive adjectives. Therefore, your example doesn't prove anything. – XPMai Nov 6 '15 at 7:39
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    Your and my grandparents is perfectly acceptable, but indeed weird. I think it's as far as you'll be able to get with explicitly using both possessive pron.s. I wonder why you don't want to use "our": Our grandparents . . . – M.A.R. Nov 6 '15 at 8:07
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    Nice question! I think it should remain open. – snailcar Nov 9 '15 at 10:06
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I think that this is confusing because you're using your and my when we already have a word our which would normally be preferred. For this reason the sentence is a little awkward, because it's not really clear why the writer has decided to not use our here.

If you want to use your and my for emphasis, which you certainly could do, then it would be a good idea to use the marker both here to highlight this:

Both your and my grandparents grew up listening to this piece of music.

This sounds perfectly natural and correct.

With regards to yours and mine, this is ungrammatical. The reason for this is that in modern English we never use mine or yours when there is a following noun.

  • It's my elephant.
  • It's mine.
  • *It's mine elephant. (ungrammatical in modern English)

I think your last sentence is a bit awkward because there doesn't seem to be any benefit in terms of meaning or effect for using such a complex construction when our grandparents would seem to do the same job.

  • We have word 'our' but does it mean that 'you and I' can't be used? Gaga and I'll be disappointed then! – Maulik V Nov 7 '15 at 9:18
  • @MaulikV No, but there needs to be a reason for doing so, that's all. For example, in you and Gaga, Gaga is needed to explain who the other person is. In "you and I get on well" the "you" and "I" have a contrastive effect where you're emphasising the identity of each other :) – Araucaria - Not here any more. Nov 7 '15 at 10:21
  • I wonder why do we discuss the 'example' and not focus on the question about using proper possessive pronouns which is confusing. – Maulik V Nov 10 '15 at 4:45
  • @Maulik I'm confused about why you're confused. We can't use mine, yours etc with a following noun. That's the important point. – Araucaria - Not here any more. Nov 10 '15 at 8:39
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    Okay, I deleted the last sentence so that it remains clear and not confusing. Thank you. – Maulik V Nov 10 '15 at 11:20
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All of the above is interesting but the example of 'our' as an alternative does not address the problem.
'Your and Elizabeth's experience was entirely different' is obviously correct using the possessive adjective 'your'.

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