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Deceit was the final "This Heat" record and developed out of the previous works as well as pushing our collective process into a wider zone. It was the result of work over the previous year or so, although several of the songs were already developed at the same time as the first album.

This is a text written for the reissue of "This Heat"'s second album called Deceit.

I wonder why it is not written "had been already developed" as the songs they are talking about had already been developed at the time of first album. So past simple means that some of the songs were not developed at the time of the first album and were developed after just before releasing Deceit.

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    Can you please fix the quote? It's clear that your transcription of the text is faulty considering that there are many errors in spelling and word choice. It's not possible for us to really address this until we know what the actual content you're quoting says. If at all possible, you should copy and paste the text rather than writing it yourself. – Catija May 20 '16 at 16:50
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    Please also include a link to the source, as many times we need to check the context to provide the best answer. – Alan Carmack May 20 '16 at 17:03
  • The words were already don't really work here - better might be several of the songs had already been developed at the same time as the first album. But I don't much like already however it's rephrased, because it clashes with at the same time in terms of "temporal sequence". – FumbleFingers May 20 '16 at 17:18
  • I have just double checked and it is written were already developed .Sorry can't give a link as the text comes from a little booklet to introduce the lp . Here are the mistake I have done This Heat, work not works. I don't see any other mistakes – user5577 May 20 '16 at 17:33
  • @user5577 Please edit your answer to correct the mistakes you discovered. – Alan Carmack May 20 '16 at 18:11
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I don't think that there is anything unusual about were already + past participle. Here is an Ngram for were already, and here is a typical example from Social Work and Assessment with Adolescents:

As we saw in the previous chapter, nearly two-thirds of the young people in our study were already involved with social services at the time when the 'event' took place, more than a quarter of them for six months or longer

The problem lies in the text that follows this. Depending on what was intended, it should probably have been one of these two:

Several of the songs were already developed at the time of the first album

Several of the songs were developed at the same time as the first album

The former would suggest that the songs already existed when the first album was released: the latter that the songs were developed in parallel with those of the first album.

The use of the word our in the text suggests that it is a quote from one of the artists: in spoken English, we don't always manage to make sentences that join up grammatically.

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  • The problem with this phrasing is that it doesn't work with what comes after. "Were already developed" is fine but adding "at the same time as the first album" seems off. – Catija May 20 '16 at 18:45
  • Agreed @Catija, I have extended my answer to suggest where the problem lies. – JavaLatte May 20 '16 at 19:03
  • yes but the reference time is their second album Deceit ,so it is past of the past for the songs that existed at the time of the first album. I double checked and it is "at the same time as the first album" – user5577 May 20 '16 at 21:12

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