Someone asked me about the meaning of

I love second rate of sun

He says he saw it on a T-shirt (in Iran)

What could be the meaning of it?! Should we trust such sentences or they are more some cool phrases on T-shirts which may have not a sensible meaning?!

Update: some says that people do mistake and we can't trust any sentence, I know! but my main question is that is it possible that people (even native) deliberately use some irregular or even non sensual phrases as fashion (on cloths or etc.)!

To me, it is important to know because when I see some weird styles, I wonder if my English is not that good to understand the phrase, but if I doubt it could be a deliberate out-standard sentence I less question my knowledge of English!

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    T-shirts are not noted for meaningful content or accurate grammar and spelling. People think it's cool to wear things bearing writing in a language they don't understand. This is where it gets them... imgur.com/gallery/4Ap4EUO
    – JavaLatte
    Jun 4 '16 at 14:14
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    @JavaLatte So true. At least they are just t-shirts and not tattoos.
    – ColleenV
    Jun 4 '16 at 14:25
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    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it has no obvious meaning in English and is likely to be a nonsense phrase. If someone knows differently, please leave a comment and I will retract my close vote.
    – ColleenV
    Jun 4 '16 at 14:30
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    How is this about fashion? It's natural for English learners to wonder whether a sentence or whatever printed on some item is actually grammatically correct or not. Because we want to know what the printed sentence/phrase means if it does mean something and we think the reason why we cannot get the meaning of whatever is printed is maybe because of our poor English.
    – Mikiko
    Jun 7 '16 at 1:23
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    @AlanCarmack as @ Miki pointed and I also said in the question, its not something that a fashion designer seeks to know, (or even he seeks), it is a question of an English learner (and for this it is on-topic), because our job (as learners) is to get familiar with anything we think we don't understand it and to know the borders!
    – Ahmad
    Jun 7 '16 at 2:56

Can we trust phrases on T-shirts as valid and sensible English sentences?

No, of course not. There is no government T-shirt Grammar Department regulating t-shirt designs to ensure they make sense.

More broadly:

Can we trust phrases [that we see or hear anywhere] as valid and sensible English sentences?

No. People make mistakes. People use bad grammar on purpose for effect. Even books about grammar sometimes contain grammatical errors.

I love second rate of sun

This doesn't make any sense in English - unless "Second Rate Of Sun" is the name of a band or something like that, in which case the phrase "Second Rate Of Sun" doesn't seem to make any sense itself, but the phrase "I love Second Rate Of Sun" would make sense.

Given that this was seen on a t-shirt in Iran, I would guess that somebody got a translation into English wrong.


You see lots of items with English words or sentences on them that don't make sense at all or that are inappropriate in many countries whose first languages are not English.

I was shopping for my son's clothes once, and found a really cute T-shirt. I was thinking if I should buy it or not until I noticed a print which said "hideous". I was like heck no! and I put it back. I've seen some weird or wrong chinese characters written on T-shirts in the US, too.

So, in my opinion, don't trust those phrases too much! If you're interested, take a look at this site. It shows you some signs that are found in Japan: https://globalechos.wordpress.com/2012/02/05/japenglish-funny-japanese-interpretation-of-english/


I have no idea what it means.

No, you can't trust t-shirts.

Answer to question update:

Anything is possible in the world of t-shirts.

It seems to me that the language and symbols on most t-shirts are meant to communicate a message. Maybe some t-shirt makers rely on gibberish or gobbledegook to get a message across. Maybe some t-shirts don't want to have a message. Maybe their message is syntactical error. Anything is possible.

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