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I want to refer to a certain page and the pages after that, but without giving the end as a specified number.

Can I use these phrases?

[...] can be found on page x and the following.

[...] can be found on page x and the following pages.

[...] can be found after page x?

I personally don't like the second version. Is the first version correct? Can I use it?

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Your first example is perfectly fine because "pages" isn't necessary. You've already stated that you're referring to pages when you say, "found on page x".

I assume that you want to spell out this information particularly instead of using the ff. notation:

"... can be found on page xff."

which means the same thing.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ff.

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    Is ff a British English convention? I'm unfamiliar with it.
    – Daniel
    Aug 20, 2013 at 16:07
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    It's commonly used on footnotes in the US. I think you'd rarely see it in the body of the text unless other similar abbreviations were also used. Note by "xff" he means a number followed by "ff", like "page 10 ff".
    – Jay
    Aug 20, 2013 at 18:34
  • Note if you're spelling it out you should just write, "page 10 and following", not "and THE following".
    – Jay
    Aug 20, 2013 at 18:36
  • @Daniel: No. It is common inside publishing, but not elsewhere, and probably wouldn't be understood by most British English readers. See here: english.stackexchange.com/questions/115784/…
    – Matt
    Aug 20, 2013 at 19:00
  • I recognize it, but these things are hit-or-miss. Those who have seen it before will recognize it immediately, but those who haven't will be confused.
    – J.R.
    Aug 20, 2013 at 21:25
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I'm not sure if it's overly simple for your needs but I would always say:

...can be found from page x onwards

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I'd say one of the following:
• ... can be found on page x and following
• ... can be found on page x et seq.
• ... can be found on or after page x

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Not “page 42 and the following”. The adjective following calls for a noun. It looks like you're using “the following” to mean “what follows the current point in the text” or “something that follows” or “the next few lines”.

“Page 42 and the following pages” sounds correct. This could be shortened to “page 42 and following pages” (since you aren't specifying the exact number of following pages, it's some following pages, so the null article works), or perhaps even to “page 42 and following” (without the, it doesn't look like a noun is missing any more).

In practice, you would normally not spell this out, but use the abbreviation ff. The word page becomes plural since it now designates not just to the first page but to the whole sequence.

(…) can be found on pages 42ff."

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    Is ff a British English convention? I'm unfamiliar with it.
    – Daniel
    Aug 20, 2013 at 16:07
  • @Daniel I'm not aware of its being more British than American. It seems to be going out of style however. See this answer by StoneyB (which mentions that the US Modern Language Association documents but deprecates ff.). Aug 20, 2013 at 16:13
  • -1. Most British and American English readers would probably find 10ff more confusing than "pages 10 onwards", which would be more common. English Learners would be well advised to use simple, understandable English than arcane shorthands that are not in wide idiomatic usage.
    – Matt
    Aug 20, 2013 at 19:01
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Even in an academic paper, I think you can avoid esoteric notation like ff or et seq. (Or perhaps especially in an academic paper. Contrary to popular opinion, you don't win points for making a paper hard to read.) You can express this simply, and I would do so by writing "starting on":

[...] can be found starting on page 153.

There are some good alternatives in the other answers. Just make sure that however you choose to express yourself, it's clear to your intended audience.

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Your second example is better than your first example, IMO. You could say

"[...] can be found on page x and on.

which would mean the same thing (although "and on" could possibly be taken to mean "until the end of the book").

Saying "after page x" is confusing. It probably would not include page x, but it is ambiguous enough that someone would probably have to ask for clarification.

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    Would it not be more common to say "From page 10 onwards?"
    – Matt
    Aug 20, 2013 at 19:02
  • @Matt I've heard them both, but "and on" sounds more natural to me than "onwards".
    – Daniel
    Aug 20, 2013 at 19:29
  • Matt, it seems so. That's a good suggestion and would be worth posting as an answer.
    – Tristan
    Aug 20, 2013 at 20:13

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