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According to grammar, amount should only be used with uncountable nouns. But in the following TOEFL TPO question, it is used with plants.

Are they used incorrectly?

Second, the production of significant amounts of ethanol would dramatically reduce the amount of plants available for uses other than fuel. For example, much of the corn now grown in the United States is used to feed farm animals such as cows and chickens. It is estimated that if ethanol were used to satisfy just 10 percent of the fuels needs in the United States, more than 60 percent of the corn currently grown in the United States would have to be used to produce ethanol. If most of the corn were used to produce ethanol, a substantial source of food for animals would disappear.

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    I think it's acceptable, because it refers to 'plants' in the sense 'plant material' rather than a specific number of individual plants. Commented Aug 2, 2023 at 16:21
  • Even though I know that this is sometimes said or written, it does sound a little awkward to me. I think I'd always prefer "number of plants" (or: "amount of plant material") It's not incorrect use, however. You will see it, and the meaning is clear.
    – BadZen
    Commented Aug 2, 2023 at 18:30
  • @KateBunting Are you agreeing with OP's claim that amount can cannot be used with countable nouns? Think of a random countable noun. Erm, ok, "bicycles". Let's see if Google throws up any results. Lo and behold, it does. How about "cucumbers". Erm, "Penguins?". Yep, of course. I'll match your and OP's invisible rule and up to with a stick of rhubarb. Commented Aug 2, 2023 at 23:36
  • @Araucaria-Nothereanymore. - I understand the rule to be 'amount of a substance - number of things', but I'm aware that people often ignore it. Commented Aug 3, 2023 at 7:32

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'amount' can be used with countable nouns

From Oxford Learner's Dictionary:

Amount is most often used with uncountable nouns: an amount of cash/space/material/food It is also sometimes used with countable nouns

It may be a rule in your curriculum or classroom to use amount with countable nouns as a matter of developing your habit, but that does not mean it is an accurate rule for all grammar. Often times for example, it is my experience rules in an ESL classroom are intended to cultivate habits, but not represent all nuances of grammar.

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In this case, 'plants' is an uncountable noun because in the referenced industrial usage, 'plants' are not counted by specific numbers.

I need 10 tons of corn stalks (plants) for the herd this year.

You would not say

I need 75,000 corn stalks for the herd this year.

I mean, you could, but it just doesn't work like that.

Agriculture, like other industries has its nuances. For example, it would not be unusual to hear

My nursery produces 25,000 roses (another plant) every February.

because they are sold as individual roses.

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  • has it's nuances? Commented Aug 2, 2023 at 16:49
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    @MichaelHarvey Thanks for the actually helpful comment!
    – DTRT
    Commented Aug 2, 2023 at 18:11
  • This is incorrect. Uncountable number is never used with a plural form. If a noun is inherently uncountable, it has no plural form. An example of an "uncountable noun" is "furniture". You cannot write "furnitures" to describe a set of chairs, tables, and bookshelves. "Chairs", "tables" and "bookshelves" are countable.
    – BadZen
    Commented Aug 2, 2023 at 18:25
  • @BadZen BTW, I love the attention. But you're wrong again. Plants in this case is an uncountable noun, see my example. You would not say 10 tons of potato. Well, you could but that means something different. It's essentially a collective noun, hence uncountable.
    – DTRT
    Commented Aug 2, 2023 at 18:29
  • "Plants" is a plural form, and uncountable nouns have no plural form. See engvid.com/english-resource/countable-and-uncountable-nouns for more on this, and to verify what I'm telling you - it's said there exactly the same. "Potato" has nothing to do with this, it's obviously a countable noun. "One potato, Two potatoes". There is no question about the number of the noun in the passage above, the question is about the use of "amount".
    – BadZen
    Commented Aug 2, 2023 at 18:34

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