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There are a couple of examples of these sentences, but the main question is, whether to read this as:

  • a and [b that c]
    or
  • [a and b] that c

An example would be:

The grass and roses that are red.

Would this mean the grass is also red, or is this sentence just poorly written?

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    Not written poorly, written well as a joke setup. Commented Jul 24, 2022 at 15:41
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    Sentences like that are systematically ambiguous in writing. In speech, it's easy to tell from the intonation and stress. Commented Jul 24, 2022 at 16:59
  • It would be better to provide a complete sentence. "Please take away the anemones and roses that are red." Ambiguous.
    – cruthers
    Commented Jul 24, 2022 at 17:23
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    @JohnLawler It reminds me of the old riddle, which I was last asked by my uncle when I was about five. "What's black and white and red all over?"
    – WS2
    Commented Jul 24, 2022 at 18:14
  • @JohnLawler I just don't see any possible ambiguity in phrase Object A and Object B that are [adjective]. Mainly because "A and B that are C" is not a really a sentence. I think the dv's on my answer are not so fair....
    – Lambie
    Commented Jul 26, 2022 at 19:15

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The grass and roses that are red.= A and B that [are] C.

A and B that C = that is not a sentence.

Yes, in this case, the grass and the roses are red. But is it not a full sentence.
A full sentence is: The grass and roses are red.

A and [B that (are) C] is not possible, as shown below.

**The grass and /roses that are red/. is not a grammatical construction or a full sentence.

What would be ambiguous is this: The grass and roses that are red should be cut.

To avoid that ambiguity, one would have to write: The grass and the red roses should be cut.

So yes, the first utterance that does not have an SVP (subject verb predicate) does mean the grass is red too. Think of anime or cartoons. Why not?

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  • Usually, I don't care about DV's but I have to say, I find these particularly annoying. Not one thing I wrote is not kosher.
    – Lambie
    Commented Jul 27, 2022 at 20:39

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